3 Smith, 1999, p. 40-41 When they checked the mileage they realise it was being used for much longer trips of up to 600 miles a time. There was a milk depot (Cuthbertson's Dairy) at the bottom of the street where we used to go and if we were lucky they would let us feed the horses, those were the days, how I loved going to the Plaza every Saturday morning to the ABC minors and when it was our birthday we got to go up on the stage and everyone sang to us. Impressed by what they had done, the European Community allowed an application for major funds, which matched by the City Council (and oth adherents), to such an extent that another 36 blocks in the estate were rehabililitated in the same fashion as the prototype.8, At this point, some may ask, if the residents of such a community could do so mutch themselves, why is authority necessary for community planning? Read More. Rather than go on strike, which was the traditional form of industrial action, the union leadership of the yards decided to have a work-in and complete the orders that the shipyards had in place. Its cells were just as grim but did not seem to deter the many local villains who frequented them on a regular basis. MATT McGINN (1928-1977) A for a Pub Hoose Licence. I was born 1944, lived 3 up in 52 Wanlock Street, right across from the little swing park and Fairfields Shipbuilders and right next to the Govan Ferry. Used to spend all summer there paying in twice, having to queue up for second swim with towel around yourself sometimes freezing and having to wait in line. Thanks in advance :). In early 1989 police discovered a team of young drug dealers were operating in Wine Alley, led by older man Eddie Burnside. As the rate of urbanisation has increased in the last 30 years, the government capacity to support the disadvantaged within this sphere has in many cases failed. In fact, the idea was publicly abused in the first of the two SEU documents above. HP10 9TY. Every Christmas I was given a big pile of unsold comics and one day the woman gave me a bob - 12 big penny coins that filled my hand. Reply. From start to finish this series has been amazing roll on book four! Readers comments: You are personally liable for the content of any comments you upload to this website, so please act responsibly. Born 1945, 28 Craigton Road two up in the hole in the wall, I went to Greenfield Primary remember headmaster name a Mr Hutchinson, a Miss Burnside, miss Blackstock. An isolated island of cheap building land, Glasgow Corporation bought the Moorepark land and in 1934 built the Moorepark Housing Estate, a typical Glasgow rehousing scheme of three-storey grey concrete-block tenements. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. I used to go there with my Mum to Woolworths, they had shoe shops and everything you wanted. Not Now. [29], Kvrner of Norway, as part of a planned development of a large international shipbuilding group, took over Govan. When the railway was to be built in the late nineteenth century, however, the confusion over proper descriptions in the land titles made necessary legal transactions difficult and had to be reconciled. Remember, Charlies sweet shop opposite us, where after playing football we were soaked in sweat, you got a glass of lemonade for threepence. My mother was born at 68 Harmony Row in 1924, when she was about 10 she was sent to Dand's Drapers on Langlands Road to buy thread for a neighbour and got her finger caught in the door which resulted in losing the tip of it which gave her years of pain, on a lighter note on the subway to hospital she had to pace up and down with pain which resulted in her leaving the subway with her pockets jingling. Went to the new Hills Trust School in about 1975 where Mrs Carnegie was head teacher. Jimmy's was our local shop and Ruby's was out local bakery which fed the Fairfield's workers. I then went to Govan High, teachers I remember and not with any fondness are Jockey Rayburn (Maths) Duncan (English) and Miss Downny (Maths) who was a lovely teacher, I had two brother George and Stuart who also went to the same primary and also went to Govan High. Jack, Margaret, Frank, Gerry, May, Charlie and Kathleen, Annie Maguire's 7 children. I was born Jan 6th 1951 and brought up in flat above Co-op in Helen Street at Govan Cross, I Went to Harmony Row and Hills Trust Primary schools before moving to Pollok when I was 10 .I have 4 brothers Dave, Bobby, Shuggie, all born in Govan ..and Alastair born in Pollok. Directions to Wine Alley Govan (Glasgow) with public transport The following transport lines have routes that pass near Wine Alley Govan Bus : 121 23 26 X19 Train : SCOTRAIL Light rail : SUB How to get to Wine Alley Govan by Bus? My dad was Boaby Rodgers he got knocked down and killed when I was 3 in 1964 and my mum was left a widow with 4 wee girls. If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). We lived directly opposite the Steamie and I vividly recall playing ball against the red brick wall for hours. SC 020951 Many memories but top must be winning Whitefield Cup with Under 13s against Lourdes in 1962 by 7-6. I can't remember what we wrote, but we were very busy. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. ; Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. Instead, it referred to the popularity of cheap and powerful tonic wines particularly with young people - the vast consumption of which would often lead to violence and disorder. You can make a complaint by using the report this post link . As for Billie Cameron, she now lives in Montreal, her sister Isa was a war bride and came to Canada in 1948 to be with her Canadian husband and lives north of Toronto in Collingwood. I went to St.Anthonys then St.Gerards, great days, I went back in the 70s and hardly recognized anything, even the people were different, if anybody has any info. Historically it was part of the County of Lanark. My dad gave my a slap for not fighting them, god was only about five years old. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. Been looking at the old pictures of Govan and wondered if anyone remembers my father's Chemist/Optician shop at Govan Cross near Helen St, 830 Govan Road. I also remember the candy apple man and rag man, I also remember at the top of Greenfield Street as a wee boy of 8 watching a horse drawn Beatties bread wagon relieving itself, what a flood lots of great memories. Today the area is policed from bright new shiny offices opposite Bellahouston Park on Helen Street. Robert sadly passed away when he was 2 and then my dad James was born in 1960. Yet, there is still much to show that community power is not only real but can work effectively. Looking at Govan when it was a village, and film of how it grew into a town, we felt very proud of being born and raised in dear auld Govan. I remember on Sunday mornings being taken with my sister, Elizabeth, on a No. When in trouble the Govanites all come together. Anyway gabgabgab, lots more if anyone is interested. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. I agreed and the result is the Report, which you now have today which is meant for the October 17th World Poverty Day. In fact, Glasgow Corporation was so determined to place many of the cities socially deprived into Moorepark that they even advertised for them in the newspapers. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. We all went to Harmony Row school because that was where our mother went and she wanted us to have the same teachers she had, and there were a few left from when she attended there. Many of the people who buy these flats do not intend to stay in them rather; they hope either to rent them out at exorbitant prices or to sell them quickly at a greater price than they bought them for. Went to St. Gerards School from January 1959 to December 1962. My Aunt Marg & Uncle Jack Johnstone had the paper shop on Govan Road. We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. Site Number NS56NE 4994. Servicii comunitare. My parents lived at 49 Nethan Street and I was born at the Southern General in 1939. I went to Hillstrust School until I was 10 then we moved to Nitshill which I was not so fond of, Govan was a great place to live we were always putting on concerts round the backs and folk would hang out the windows to watch the performance there was always stuff going on or buss-runs that our streets would organise and the Govan Fair, Govanites were great. I loved Govan how all the woman watched as we played there was always an adult around and if they were not outside you knew exactly where to find them sitting in a house having a cup of tea great great days I wish we had lived in Govan longer than my 5 years but we always had many visits back to see relies and old neighbours. . The School that was situated at the end of Cowie Street was the "Wee Lamby" or Lambhill Junior Primary. My Mother took me to the Southern and a giant black man came in. First of all, they invited local and international designers to attend a three day team design effort to come up with imaginative projects that would redress the problems they had in their 3-storey, concrete block houses.7, The group then lobbied the City Council, the Scottish Office and finally Westminster, until they were eventually given the go-ahead to revamp one of the old blocks of 6 houses into model they desired. We are the Eskimoes. So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. When the car stopped at lights in Helen Street it was surrounded by the surveillance team who arrested the driver and seized the heroin which had a street value of 50,000 - worth 125,000 today. Both my parents went to Greenfield School then Govan High. Just answering Margaret Fletcher's post below. 99m New Cafe India Govan . Of all the memories that I hold dear as a very young boy, was the guy pushing a barrow every Saturday afternoon selling bags of whelks! During the two-week surveillance every addict who called at Burnside's flat for drugs was then arrested by the team and questioned. Years ago Govan was a brilliant shopping place. Great times. Renton, WA 98058. Egg And Chip' 11/2. Govan (/ v n / GUV-n; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland.It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick.Historically it was It never surfaced again until Lil Feeney came looking for me (who I had known from Govan Initiative) and asked me if I would be interested in helping to write a Report on poverty and deprivation (along with herself and Brian) inspired by Darners book on the same theme. I was born at 17 Holmfaulhead Drive, Linthouse in 1947 and went to Elderpark School. Like Pauline I also went to St. Margaret's and I also recall Susan's Shop. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. He was able to give police precise details of the drug operation Burnside was running and the names of his associates. In 1973 SNP won a by-election with Margo MacDonald as their candidate. The City of Woodinville's Mayor Mike Millan cut the ribbon to mark the occasion. Moore Park (Glasgow University Library, Special Collections, Dougan Collection, 1870), OS 25 inch Scotland, 1892-1905 (Moore Park), "Glasgow, Govan, Moorepark Housing Estate", Gender and Political Identities in Scotland, 1919-1939, Ian Jack: Problem Families (review of 'From Moorepark to Wine Alley: The Rise and Fall of a Glasgow Housing Scheme' by Sean Damer), Debate: Housing and Local Government (Scotland), Poverty, deprivation and development in working class communities, Photo of Benburb F.C. The police discovered an empty flat on the eighth floor which would give them a birds eye view of the entrance to Burnsides tenement flat close. It seemed a dangerous idea but worth the risk if they could dent a hole in a major heroin dealing operation. Long range video and still cameras were set up at both locations so that the daily activities of the dealers could be filmed and monitored. Claire Fitzpatrick - I wonder if your Mary is one of our family? 11/2. Would love to hear if anyone remembers the Wallace family! sau. Read More The writer on housing problems, T. A. Markus, wondered why many important questions were never asked in the planning process. or. [15], With Morris Pollok as its first Provost, the Burgh and its Commissioners ensured that during the next 48 years Govan became a well-equipped, modern town. Media/news company. Run by a tall slim guy whose son was a racing cyclist ? James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. 9 Goodlad, and Meegan, 2005, p. 188, Community Power in Community Planning Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. Burnside also appeared to take sadistic pleasure in watching them scrabbling about on the ground looking for their hit. Used to have a friend called Theresa Moody who died quite young. Around 1963 we moved to Arden where I went St Louise Primary School. We visited Govan in recent years and is not the same place anymore. My dad was taken in to see the wee boy, turns out it was me. Jackson had only just taken charge of the CID at Govan, having left his post as head of Strathclyde Polices serious crime squad. [10], Not much is known about any medieval village that may have surrounded the church until 1454 when it is recorded that whole houses, barns and mills in the village were brought down by a great flood. In June 2004 the Scottish Parliaments Public Petition Committee heard presentations from Govan Community Council about the failure of local regeneration policies in housing, poverty and unemployment. Nu acum. [7] It is now kept inside the church, as part of the Govan Stones museum collection. I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. My gran was Ella Campbell who lived in Greenfield Street during the 50s and 60 s. Govan young team. [32][33] The shipbuilding operations became BAE Systems Marine, which subsequently became part of BVT Surface Fleet, a naval shipbuilding joint venture between BAE Systems and VT Group, which became BAE Systems Surface Ships in 2009. I was born in the Southern General Hospital in 1958 and lived at 23 McGregor Street, Chookiehill [Teucharhill] as it was fondly called then. Classification Housing Estate (Modern) Alternative Name (s) Moorpark Housing Estate; 'wine Alley'. When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. The scheme was codenamed Operation Buckfast after a brand of tonic wine popular in the area. We lived in Southcroft St., when we got married. Although Govan was the stated setting for the show, episodes were seldom filmed there. Govan is served by community radio station Sunny Govan, broadcasting on 103.5FM to the city of Glasgow and surrounding districts, discussing local issues and providing advice, and with diverse musical output covering soul, hip-hop and reggae. My grandparents on my mother's side were McElhinneys and attended Plantation Church while my dad's side and myself attending our Lady and St Margaret's Chapel. In May 1979, Margaret Thatcher was elected Prime Minister and her ministry soon began its privatisation programme. Now her daughter (my mother) is 92 years old and I am fascinated by the stories which her mother passed down to her and now to me. And increase their/your revenues. I loved going to the Steamie with my Mum and her friends. The manager was a man called Jackie. Anyone remember Quinn's pet shop in Harmony Row? I have many happy memories of Govan. They were followed there and back by a second surveillance team and the vehicle stopped near Ibrox. I recall going to the Co-op hypermarket on a Saturday morning for messages. Memories of our workers are Nancy, Margret-Anne and various others, oh and not forgetting Speedy. RM 2E6CW9C - Workers line the street and applaud the hearse carrying former trade union official Jimmy Reid as it is driven past the Govan shipyard in Glasgow, Scotland August 19, 2010. Based on this, Govan's Cumbric language name has been reconstructed as *(G)uovan. The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. Good memories. This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. It was incorporated into the City of Glasgow in 1912.[5]. Playing out in the street with our whip and peeries my sisters and friends would have contests to see who could chalk their peerie with the best colour design. Everyone used our street for roller skating, we called it thd smoothie! [30] British Shipbuilders' sale of Govan to the Norwegian firm was completed in 1988, and the yard was renamed Kvaerner Govan. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. Within it and its roughly circular churchyard is one of the finest collections of Early Christian stones in the United Kingdom, known as the Govan Stones, dating from the c.9th to 11th centuries. Management of entrance into the block zones was poor while the risk of personal attack inside and outside the flats was high. Especially in the Scottish context, given the important role that they have played in community planning. Community service. I was searching for Harry Lauder pictures and came across this interesting site. Burnside, 42, known as the Godfather, lived on the top-floor flat of his tenement. Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. The Govan ferry was something special for us to go on, either by ourselves or with our mum. "[13], By the early part of the 19th century, Govan was rapidly losing its rural appearance and assuming the character of a town with the development of new industries and factories, including Reid's Dye Works and Pollok's Silk Mill. Glasgow Braendam Link, aims to support, empower and enable all those involved in the partnership to gain more control of their lives by encouraging self-belief, growth and development. Jocelyn Square. We lived in Linthouse at that time, and then we moved to Shaw Street in Govan. Thus, Damer saw that this decision of loading more of the socially deprived into an existing deprived area, only added to Mooreparks growing problems of joblessness, poverty, depression, drunkenness and crime. Related Pages. Verejnoprospen prce. The idea behind the hotel was to employ local people and to draw in money to the area. Also, among the plans for Govans hub was a programme to make Govans main shopping area more attractive such as joining Govans Market, Shopping Centre, Underground and bus depot together under the one roof. Govan covers a huge part of Glasgow's Southside and is famous the world over for its ship building and football team. 5 I thought you wrote "hides in a fridge and dodges an erection!" . My sister and I were married in 1961 at Govan Parish where we were members. I remember the baths and went there every Friday, I also remember playing in the street and when the coalman came my mum and I would follow him with a pram and pick up any coal that fell of the lorry. It has taken Govan many years to heal and the spare grounds and scars are all nearly gone. Smith did know Glasgow well, but Edinburgh (where he later worked as Secretary to the University) was gloriously exotic. My gran lived upstairs at 12 Water row. Dry Docks Cafe. I would so love to hear from you if you do. Moorepark was demolished and converted into an industrial estate in the 1990s, along with a nearby contemporary development at Teucharhill which had a similar tough reputation. On the other hand, a government that takes no heed of the community at large fails also. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. In Great Britain, community planning has evolved and not only has it kept its identity, but it has also retained its application as a primary vehicle through which social change is enacted at a local level, by members of the community acting together to improve the lifestyle of the group as a whole. My mother, Elsie Walker lived with siblings; Edward, Betty, Beatrice and Edith in Belch Street, it was a small street with only one close and not one single Govan person I have ever met can remember it! Gary Faulds. He thought that important questions are never asked because mistakes in the finish of the whole are not seen until it is too late. My mam would love to know. My maternal grandmother Mary Agnes McDermott and her family came to Govan from Ireland in the early 1900's. And Linda Paterson, I knew your dad Geordie Paterson, and I think he had a brother Willie. This latter kingdom, established in the aftermath of the Viking siege and capture of Alt Clut by Vikings from Dublin in AD 870, created the sandstone sculptures known today as the Govan Stones. Post moderation is undertaken full-time 9am-6pm on weekdays, and on a part-time basis outwith those hours. Living Dangerously in Govan by James McDonald. I remember two days before we left in 1963, I took her to the Govan Fair, and that was the last one I ever saw.

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